Wednesday, July 13, 2005

Unbelievable to me
It is unbelievable to me that anyone could possibly want to capitulate to terrorists who "only want us out of Iraq." Today, in that country, they attacked US soldiers:

A suicide bomber blew up a vehicle Wednesday near a U.S. military convoy [...] killing 27 people, Iraqi police and hospital officials said.
They're just defending their country, right? It's their right to repel foreign invaders, right? I would do the same thing if my country was invaded, right?

There's just one problem with that—here's the full opening of the article:
A suicide bomber blew up a vehicle Wednesday near a U.S. military convoy and large group of Iraqi children in Baghdad, killing 27 people, Iraqi police and hospital officials said.

Iraqi police said most of the dead were children. The attack also left 20 people wounded.

The U.S. military said at least seven children and a U.S. soldier died in the attack. Three U.S. soldiers were wounded.

The soldiers were handing out treats to the children when the bomb went off, police said.
(emphasis added)
They targeted a few US soldiers who were handing out candy to children—and killed a bunch of children in the process. These are not glorious revolutionaries in the mold of our Founders—these are murderers and thugs, who just intentionally blew up innocent children of their own nationality and religion. I don't care how terrible the invading force was—I would never blow up innocent children in my fight against an occupier.

This type of act is unforgiveable, and why we can never back down.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

When are you shipping off to Iraq to show your support for our brave troops and the cause they are fighting for us? You appear to be of military age, being that you're an elitist "conservative Yalie".

Please don't say you're planning to back down from the fight and the sacrifice you're asking others to commit on your behalf.

- Jon T. Hecill, proud liberal patriot

RFTR said...

So military service is the only acceptable way to show support for troops?

I think I have plenty of fight here, and that I can contribute far more to that fight than I could as a soldier.

Furthermore, not in decades has anyone been forced into our military—apparently liberals no longer support the freedom of choice, since anyone supporting the war in Iraq is immediately expected to enlist.

Greg said...

Brian, i happened upon your post through Dave. Very interesting stuff. I live in Israel and consider myself as belonging to the Right here although since Sharon's plan to disengage from Gaza he's also "disengaged" me from the Likud. In any case, like you said, serving in the army(and this is coming from someone who lives in a country where army service is mandatory, isn't the only and not even the best way to contribute to the cause of freedom and justice world-wide.

I will definitely add u to the list of my favorite blogs and hope to hear more about the situation in Iraq and back home in the U.S. as events unfold. With regards to the post by the "proud liberal patriot": man...don't you think being a liberal and supporting the U.S. mission to bring peace and democracy to a country long led by a rampaging dictator are 2 things that don't quite click...no offense...but please explain yourself.

-Eitan.

Anonymous said...

Brian, do you routinely delete replies with which you disagree? I posted a reply to your red herring "So military service is the only acceptable way to show support for troops?"

...but lo and behold, only a few days after I rhetorically destroyed your pitiful argument it has disappeared.

More hypocrisy from a right-winger: you complain in other posts about being troll-rated at DKos (which is not the same as deletion, troll-rated posts can still be read) yet you delete posts to your own blog with which you disagree.

You have proven your hollowness and shallowness with your immature action. If you can't take the heat when your illogical rants are shown to be baseless get out of the kitchen.

- Jon Hecill

Anonymous said...

Eitan,

With regards to the post by the "proud liberal patriot": man...don't you think being a liberal and supporting the U.S. mission to bring peace and democracy to a country long led by a rampaging dictator are 2 things that don't quite click...no offense...but please explain yourself.

Bringing liberty, freedom, and self-determination to as many people as possible is a liberal goal since before the time of Woodrow Wilson.

But look at the nations which have fought for such goals and you'll find they did it on their own: the USA, France, etc on down through the centuries.

More to the point, the US Invasion of Iraq was premised on a set of lies. "Bringing freedom to the people of Iraq" was so far down the list of excuses conservatives used that it rarely made headlines before the invasion.

Two. Different. Things. The conservatives lied their way into war (and dragging America with them); they did not set out with some lofty, liberal goal of freeing anybody. Honestly, do you take everything you read at face value? Not every conservative tells the truth you know.

And besides, how is tampering with the Iraqi political process and their elections "bringing freedom"? A similar sort of nefarious meddling is what led to the Iran coup and Hostage Crisis, or did you not know that?

- Jon

RFTR said...

Jon--my apologies, but I have no idea what you're talking about. I do not delete comments unless they are entirely off-topic, spam, or unnecessarily vulgar, etc.

To my knowledge, I have not deleted any comments by you. Beyond that, I don't know what else to tell you.

On your point to Eitan, you said:
But look at the nations which have fought for such goals and you'll find they did it on their own: the USA, France, etc on down through the centuries.

Well, the French navy intervened in the American Revolution, as well as providing professional soldiers to... oh, look! train our troops like we're doing right now in Iraq!

And France? Yep, they revolted all by themselves. And then put an emperor in power which... that's right(!) had to be removed by military force that was a joint effort of Britain, Russia, Spain, and Germany.

Let's continue your list, ok? Vietnam--heavily supplied and logistically supported by China. Iran--same thing but by Russia.

Can anyone else name some more?