Thursday, June 23, 2005

Hey, kettle... Republicans are white!
Howard Dean just can't get much more ridiculous. Now he's saying that divisive political rhetoric must be stopped... as long as the other side is to blame:

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean called on Bush to "show some leadership and unequivocally repudiate Rove's divisive and damaging political rhetoric."
Honestly, what Rove said (that liberals followed 9/11 with a call for indictments and therapy for our attackers while conservatives prepared for war) isn't that far off base looking at the current political climate. I think after 9/11 we all prepared for war, and then liberals lost the stomach for it and started sounding like this, from John Kerry:
We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance.

As a former law enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.
Ideally, for liberals, we'd capture terrorists before they attack, convict them, send them to prison, and reform them from their wicked ways—and that's what Rove was saying. It's not such a bad thought, it's just that hawks like me don't think it's realistic, and subscribe instead to the flypaper theory mentioned below. Liberals (doves) are concerned about creating terrorists by fueling Al Quaeda's propaganda— conservative (hawks) are concerned with drawing out all of those who might be seduced by terrorism and destroying them. I know which one I believe, I don't know which one is right. Karl Rove knows which one he believes and is pretty sure he's right—hence the disdain in his voice when talking about indictments and therapy—but that doesn't mean he should apologize for making an accurate observation. If Dean is so insulted by someone who points out what he believes, maybe he should reassess his beliefs.

And stop being a racist, partisan hack.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

>Ideally, for liberals, we'd capture
>terrorists before they attack,
>convict them, send them to prison,
>and reform them from their wicked
>ways—
As you say, this would certainly be ideal...

>and that's what Rove was
>saying. It's not such a bad thought,

That's not wqas Rove was saying. Let's be at least that intellectually honest.

> it's just that hawks like me don't
>think it's realistic, and subscribe
>instead to the flypaper theory
>mentioned below. Liberals (doves)
>are concerned about creating
>terrorists by fueling Al Quaeda's
>propaganda
This is certainly a much better long term solution... And cheaper...

>— conservative (hawks)
>are concerned with drawing out all
>of those who might be seduced by
>terrorism and destroying them.
This _might_ be an option if this
is what we were actually doing. Instead, we are killing innocent people, starting wars based on _lies_, and torturing random people pulled off the street who may or may not be guilty. When anyone asks if we have proof of guilt we accuse them of being unamerican. We're conducting nothing more than a modern day witch hunt.


> I
>know which one I believe, I don't
>know which one is right.

So do I, and right is certainly moral.

>Karl Rove knows which one he
>believes and is pretty sure he's
>right—hence the disdain in his
>voice when talking about
>indictments and therapy—but that
>doesn't mean he should apologize
>for making an accurate observation.

Accept they aren't accurate. Rove should apologize to all of the innocent that have been killed and tortured for starters... And then get on his knees and beg forgiveness for the sins that he has committed to date!

>If Dean is so insulted by someone
>who points out what he believes,
>maybe he should
>reassess his beliefs.

Or maybe he should continue to point out the lies and immorality of those on the rioght who believe in torture and which hunts!

-Tom Mish

RFTR said...

Except that these are NOT people "just pulled off the street."

And that IS what Rove was saying. He was saying that people like you think that's the way to approach things, which is what you just said. I didn't mean he's saying it was ideal, as you chose to take my words out of context and imply—I meant all he was saying is that people like you think it's ideal.

Let's be intellectually honest, and not dowdify people.